Sunday, December 25, 2011

Merry Christmas!

Happy New Year! I would like to read A Short History of Nearly Everything as our next selection. I started it at the beach last summer but ran out of time before I could finish it. What I read was full of great stories of truly quirky people throughout the history of scientific discovery.

I am thinking of reading it on my brand-new Kindle! Merry Christmas to me! If either of you has any suggestions for how to make the best use of this marvelous device, please fill me in.

I fly to DC in a few hours and then head up to Gettysburg for about 10 days. Are either of you in town?

Tuesday, December 6, 2011

Suggestions?

Do you have any suggestions for our next book? I have some ideas I've been kicking around but I'd love to hear your ideas.

Some of the books I'd like to read soon include The Savage Detectives by Roberto BolaƱo, Changing My Mind (a book of essays) by Zadie Smith, The Golden Compass by Phillip Pullman, and A Short History of Nearly Everything by Bill Bryson. Have you read those already?

I've started Christmas shopping. Have you read any books lately that you think my mom might like? Successful gifts for her in the past few years have included The Sweetness at the Bottom of the Pie, The Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society, and Mr. Pettigrew's Last Stand. I tend to look for mysteries for her that are not too scary or gory. Thanks for any suggestions!

Sunday, November 20, 2011

Musings

I was struck by the fluctuating feelings that many of the characters have for one another. A good portion of the stream of consciousness seems to be devoted to the internal processing of one characters feelings for another, e.g. Mrs. Ramsay and Charles Tansley; Mrs. Ramsay towards Mr Ramsay; James towards his parents; Lily Briscoe towards Mr. and Mrs. Ramsay. The least melancholy, most comfortable moments for me as a reader were when a character's feelings were the most definite.

Despite her condescension towards Lily, Mrs. Ramsay noticed and enjoyed Lily's independence: "Lily's picture! Mrs. Ramsay smiled. With her little Chinese eyes and her puckered-up face, she would never marry; one could not take her painting very seriously; she was an independent little creature, and Mrs. Ramsay liked her for it; so, remembering her promise, she bent her head."

William Bankes and Lily have an easy, steady relationship and seem to know how they feel about one another.

Mr. Ramsay seems to make everyone uncomfortable...including me.

Mr. Carmichael seemed to be the only character who didn't really like Mrs. Ramsay. His resulting manner made Mrs. Ramsay uncomfortable and she was perpetually seeking to bridge the gap between them.

The only time when I remember Mr. Ramsay being made uncomfortable by Mrs. Ramsay is when he sees her lost in her own thoughts, unavailable to him: "She was aloof from him now in her beauty, in her sadness. He would let her be, and he passed her without a word, though it hurt him that she should look so distant, and he could not reach her, he could do nothing to help her. And again he would have passed her without a word had she not, at that very moment, given him of her own free will what she knew he would never ask, and called to him and taken the green shawl off the picture frame and gone to him. For he wished, she knew, to protect her." "He did not like to see her look so sad, he said. Only wool gathering, she protested, flushing a little. They both felt uncomfortable, as if they did not know whether to go on or go back. She had been reading fairy tales to James, she said. No, they could not share that; they could not say that."

This same neediness of his presents itself to Lily towards the end of the book but her reaction is so different from Mrs. Ramsay's that the tension increases between them as he refuses to ask directly for what he needs from her and she refuses to give it though she is aware of it. She resents his neediness. And like James, any negative feelings Lily has about Mrs. Ramsay seem to relate to Mrs. Ramsay's surrender to Mr. Ramsay's spoken and unspoken demands. "All Lily wished was that this enormous flood of grief, this insatiable hunger for sympathy, this demand that she should surrender herself up to him entirely, and even so he had sorrows enough to keep her supplied forever, should leave her, should be diverted (she kept looking at the house, hoping for an interruption) before it swept her down in its flow."

They each seem to struggle so much with their connections to others and their isolation from one another. Lily is unable to offer Mr. Ramsay what he seeks and instead talks to him of his boots. "They had reached, she felt, a sunny island where peace dwelt, sanity reigned and the sun for ever shone, the blessed island of good boots. Her heart warmed to him." She has made a connection with him that didn't require extreme sacrifice on her part and she is comfortable for a moment.

After Mr. Ramsay and the children leave to go to the lighthouse, Lily wants to speak with Mr. Carmichael, to connect, but she cannot. "She wanted to go straight up to him and say "Mr. Carmichael!" Then he would look up benevolently as always, from his smoky vague green eyes. But one only woke people if one knew what one wanted to say to them. And she wanted to say not one thing, but everything. Little words that broke up the thought and dismembered it said nothing. "About life, about death, about Mrs. Ramsay" - no, she thought, one could say nothing to nobody. The urgency of the moment always missed its mark."

Then a passage follows in which Lily contemplates the inadequacy of language to express one's inner self. The passage seems similar to me to the earlier passages related to Lily's struggle to paint exactly what she envisions in her mind. Much of the book seems to tackle this struggle to make inner thoughts into outward expressions.

Saturday, November 5, 2011

First Impressions/Brain Dump

It wasn't Mrs. Dalloway.  Which is not fair at all, because Mrs. Dalloway is one of my most favorite of books.

I did like seeing how Woolf used the same stream of consciousness frame in the two stories.  I love the juxtaposition between the perfect English house (though in the Hebrides quite a way from England!) and the inner turmoil of Mrs. Ramsay

I didn't think I was making much of a connection with the characters, but I kept reading.  And then I hit the second section.  And when I read "[Mr. Ramsay, stumbling along a passage one dark morning, stretched his arms out, but Mrs. Ramsay having died rather suddenly the night before, his arms, though stretched out, remained empty]" I felt like I had been punched in the chest.  So I guess I was wrong about not connecting.

I finished it a few weeks ago (which is like dog years to me in terms of past books).  So now that the kids are in bed, I'm going to do some reading online about this book.  I'm excited to hear your thoughts!

Friday, November 4, 2011

November 4!

Hi all,

It is 9:30pm on November 4 and I just got home from work. I would love to post but my mind is mush. I'll talk to you tomorrow when I've revived! Miss you two.

Sarah

Monday, October 10, 2011

Just started but...

...I couldn't resist sharing this passage on the house being shabby:  “for they were gifted, her children, but all in quite different ways.  And the result of it was, she sighed, taking in the whole room from floor to ceiling…that things got shabbier and got shabbier summer after summer.”


Love it!  Blame the brilliance of my children for the mess of my house!  Yeah, that’s the ticket!

Sunday, October 2, 2011

It Has Been Decreed

(By me.  Just now.)  To the Lighthouse, November 4th.  Yay us!

Sunday, September 25, 2011

Who's afraid of Virginia Woolf?

She looks pretty harmless. I think I've only ever read A Room of One's Own. I am up for trying To The Lighthouse. Besides, how could I pass up reading"one of the greatest elegies in the English language, a book which transcends time,” a book considered to be "one of the two or three finest novels of the twentieth century?!" I can't. To The Lighthouse!

Saturday, September 24, 2011

game plan?

To quote the Jungle Book vultures: "I don't know; What do you want to do?" I would be happy to start a new book. But it sounded like Never Let Me Go had been on your reading list for a bit and I don't want to skip over your pick. How about this: we'll move on with Natalie's pick and but whenever you do read it, we can circle back and talk about it then? What do you two think?

Natalie, did you post about Gabby and then delete it? I'm sorry she had that experience. And that the point of the anti-bullying curriculum was lost on her classmates. Blech. But the photo of you all in your Dolphins gear was terrific! Go Team Emiliani!

Wednesday, August 24, 2011

Another Deadline Blows By

Well, the suggestion of finishing by August 22 has come and gone.  Anyone read it?  I've tried, but I'm not having much luck.  I've been on vacation and have had plenty of reading time, but it just wasn't compelling enough for me to stick with it.  I can't really put my finger on what it is that I don't particularly like.  I intend to keep trying, though.  Unless, of course, you both tell me otherwise.


Monday, July 11, 2011

Let's Try...

Never Let Me Go as the next title, with a finish date goal of August 22nd.  That gives us 6 weeks, and we'll be able to celebrate Sarah's birthday, too.

I have put the website into my Google RSS feed.  So I do get notices of both posts and comments.  But if you don't have an RSS feed, that's a stumbling block.  Would you prefer we discuss over Facebook?  I've noticed that you can "chat" with more than one person at a time on FB if we all happen to be on at the same time, and/or we can just try to keep track our our thoughts through FB e-mail.  I can go either way -- I just want to do whatever is easier for you girls.

Sarah, I'd love to hear your thoughts on ATOTC.  So whenever you feel like dumping them, go ahead!

Saturday, July 2, 2011

New book?

Hi ladies! I know it's Natalie's pick but I have a couple of books I've been wanting to read: Room (or is it The Room?) and Never Let Me Go. Have either of you read those? Suggestions? Looks like Nat's on vacation, but when you get a chance, let me know what you think. Miss you girls! ~K

Friday, May 13, 2011

Stalled!

But I still think this is a worthy endeavor, so let's move on.  Who's pick is it?  This month features a nice holiday weekend, so hopefully we can sneak away from various picnics and family get-togethers and read!

Tuesday, April 19, 2011

The Parts I Liked

Sarah asked which parts made me have trouble putting the book down.  It's been quite awhile since I've read it, but what I remember is that almost all the parts in France were page turners: the whole backstory of Charles Darnay/St. Evremonde, the man locked in the tower, the knitting woman.  I loved that woman!  Loved to hate her, loved her sly trick.  How is it that I never had heard about this knitting trick?  Surely that should be one of THE moments in literature that should be known by all.

All of this makes me realize that since all the parts I liked were taking place in Paris, maybe that's why I felt like it was really only a tale of One City.  Only one city's tale intrigued me.  That whole part about the identical looking men, and the body-snatcher guy with a son.  Ugh.

Wednesday, March 30, 2011

Let's Start with the Title

I'm just not getting it.  And I'm going to be brave and voice all my ignorance and THEN go look stuff up on the internet.

This does not seem to be a tale of two cities.  To me it's a tale of one city (Paris during the revolution) with the second city existing only as an escape location for some characters.  The very famous beginning, "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times," yada yada yada makes me think the story is really going to compare/contrast London and Paris.  Does the reader have to be a British Dickensian contemporary to see the comparison?  (Or a historian?)

All this makes me sound like I didn't like the book.  Which is not true.  In fact, I found myself not wanting to put it down at some points.  I just figured the best place to start a discussion is at the beginning, no?

Wednesday, March 16, 2011

Ides of March

They have come and gone and I have failed to finish our book. :-( How are you two doing? Postpone discussion for a week? Or can you kick it off and I'll catch up?

Thursday, February 3, 2011

Wishing I were reading

I am at work on antibiotics and Sudafed. I very much wish I were at home curled up with our new book. Just wanted to mention one more time how much I love this book club. And you two.

Tuesday, February 1, 2011

Next!

It's February 1st, and I think that's a tidy time to start a new book.  I do believe it's Sarah's choice.  And, Sarah, would you mind picking a discussion date that seems reasonable related to your pick?

Thursday, January 20, 2011

Alessandra and her mother

When Sister Lucrezia is found lying in the sun, the nun who saw her says her smile seemed triumphant. It struck me after reading the whole story that her triumph was in finding a way to do much of what she wanted to do with her life despite the restrictive gender roles of her time.

Much of the tension between what Alessandra and the role of women gets explored through the relationship between her and her mother. (By the way, is the mother nameless? I was looking and couldn't find mention of her first name.) There are two conversations early in the book that I wanted to bring up.

On page 21, when they are examining the paintings on the chest and her mother asks her if she has found her own likeness: "The girl at the side, standing apart, engaged in such earnest conversation with the young man. I wonder how well her talk of philosophy is keeping his mind on higher things," she said evenly. I bowed my head to acknowledge the hit. My sister stared on at the painting, oblivious.

It was a painting of the Sabine women being violated. What was her mother really saying here? What was the "hit?" Is it related to Alessandra's earlier secret conversation with the painter or does her mother truly not know about that? It seems strange in the context of the painting - all her talk of philosophy will not save her - she is viewed just like all the other women, about to be violated? And in that context, what does her mother seem to be saying she should do?

The other passage is on page 85, when they are discussing whether she will go to a convent and Alessandra brings up the possibility of her marrying instead. Alessandra wonders "why must there always be two conversations, one that women have when there are men present and one we have when we are alone?"

This had me wondering about how much this still goes on. Do women still have very different conversations when they are alone than when men are present? If so, what prompts that? Is it brought about by the same or different motivations than the ones motivating Alessandra and her mother?

Monday, January 3, 2011

Let's Discuss!

So....what does everyone think?  To be honest, I finished it long enough ago that I don't remember too much.  I remember liking it, and therefore reading it pretty quickly.  But I don't remember many details (something that regularly happens to me and books), and can't remember anything in particular that I was dying to discuss.  (Except, of course, the prologue.  And I already commented on that.)

How about you two?